Monday, September 15, 2008

Another take



Ok, I have no idea why I thought it was a good idea to include the 150 and 450 fields. No one else included them, so I took them out. Also, I am not quite sure about my punctuation. With regard to the DDC#, I ended up with one less 3 than Toshu. Can anyone explain to me or point me in the direction of how to find this information correctly? I hope I am not forgetting anything. I am so glad to work in a group for this project. I have really benefited from all your input.

Comparing fields

Thank you, guys. Great job!
Dr. Bob asked us to use 050 _4 for every assignments.
2nd indicator, 4,shows the call number is not LCC.
I will confirm about DDC cutter number with Dr. Bob. I
remember that Dr. Bob gave us a link or software to find out the cutter number.
And I used it in 248.
245 12 is right if we want to keep an article.
245 subfiled c includes copyright sign, because the verso states copyright year is 2005.
650_0 is LCC subject heading which Dr. Bob requested.
We can add a subject heading. But, always, the first subject heading is an important main heading and reflects its LCC. Also, I was taught we don't need broader term.
For 300 field, I will confirm it with my co worker or supervisor.

I think the record looks great!

Reconciliation

Hello everyone, I was going to just go off the last posts, but when getting into it thought the discussion might work better when addressing field by field.
Also, the revised monograph was sent via email. And to clarify - the title page does not list the illustrator, only the verso. Does this make any changes to our cataloged record?

Fixed fields: I think we are all have the same except for the “ILLS” field. Toshu’s photograph explanation sounds reasonable, where was that taken from? I haven’t seen any definitions, just a list and in several places. I’ve also never seen the “o” designation. So then the "ills" in the fixed field area should just be "a"? Are there any other variations in the fixed fields?
020 – all same
040 – all same
042 – well I missed that field and an easy one.
050 – This is called “Library of Congress Call Number” and 090 is Locally Assigned LC-type Call Number. Similar situation with the Dewey Decimal numbers: 092 is “Locally Assigned Dewey Call Number” where 082 is: “Dewey Decimal Classification Number” Since Dr. Ellett said use 082 maybe we should also use 050 for the LCC number? Or is this something we need clarification on. I’m confused!!
082/092 – DDC number, Great - we got confirmation our Dewey number is good: 635.967109033

The added .T55 2005 is for LCC only, not DDC. Toshu asked about this part and the .T55 came from the tables for Library of Congress Catalog numbers, not Dewey or cutter tables. Add for the history part/historical aspect. Also, the subfield “b” for the Dewey number, do we include this? I'm now thinking no.

100 – all the same here
245 – The title does start with the article "A" so we need to include that and the indicator should reflect skipping the article. Since it's only one letter would the indicator be 2? Also, I just noticed my record did not follow the correct capitalization format.
260 - We are almost all the same. Only difference is for the copyright some of us have a “c” before the date others don’t. Which is correct?

300 – the size - I think we include both since the length is bigger than the height. Under the illustration description Natalie had: (color photographs & black and white drawings). Where others had the abbreviated (some col.). Is this a cataloger choice area? Which is correct?

440 – the series statement. Again I capitalized words in error. I included under subfield “v” before the number “no.” since I thought that was prescribed, but now I’m not finding that. Probably we don’t include this?

500 – Added notes, do we want to include the "Notes follow each chapter."? I think its up to the cataloger, or optional. I added it…any thoughts?

504 – all same here

650 – subject classification. Do we include any indicators?
Also Natalie had different subject/an added entry and not having Historical as part of the subject. I was wondering about the additional subject also….

700 – added entries, all same here.

Final question, about the rules - how many do we need? I believe Dr. Ellett said they are optional and you can include to justify your cataloging. This was how the 248 class was. I actually never added the rules and did okay anyway. Any thoughts.

okay, last for now, in our final record we will have to be very careful about punctuation as Amber mentioned. I also noticed that we have some leading spaces before the fields, in my record as well. It's so easy to do! So we really need to do the fine tooth comb on this area.
Did I miss something that we aren’t agreed upon in our individual cataloging?

Record comparisons

Thanks, everyone. Now we have everyone’s records for comparisons.

1. I noticed some of our titles are different. Do we keep the article in front of “history”? (Is it a or an in front?) If there is article, the indicators in 245 need to be changed.

2. I didn’t take 248 with Dr. Ellett and I don’t remember my professor went over DDC in our class. That’s why I was very confused on how to construct a Dewey number. Toshu, thanks for checking in with Dr. Ellett though. So do we all agree on this call number, 635.967109033 .T55 2005?

3. Thanks Toshu for the photograph explanation. Now I understand why most photograph books do not have o in the fixed field.

4. Yes we need to make those name changes on our t.p. Pamela, since you have the original document, would you be able to make those changes?

Bib record for Assignment 1


1) Book Size 17.5 X 35 cm = 18 X35Cm ( no decimal)
2.5D2.
If the width of the volume is either less than half the height or greater than the height, give the height × width.
; 20 × 8 cm.
; 20 × 32 cm.
300 subfield c is 35 cm.
2) subject headings & call numbers
suggetsion from Dr. Bob
We need the following:
--DDC number
--LCC number
-- LCSH headings (second indicator 0)
3) 1 st cutter number
Amber and Pamela,
Did T55 come from DDC cutter table website in 248? I thought we used the cutter table website in 248.
Am I wrong?
4) photographs
All depends on what kind of photographs on the book
*actual photographs are pasted on the book--- fixed field ills: o
*photographs are printed on the book-----fixed field ills: a
5) illustrated by Helen Mitchell
We must added the following under "Photographs by Tony Cooper" on the title page:
"Illustrated by Helen Mitchell"
We should change the other names on the title page and verso.
Thank you.