Assignment Two

Hi

It's exciting stuff! Don't worry!

I send my answer to you guys by e-mail.

I found OCLC authority records for #10-#14.

Please take a look at my answers and let me know what you think.

Especially, I need your help on #9.

NACO

I'm hoping that tomorrow's class will help in easing some of the confusion with this assignment.
I feel a bit overwhelmed, or is it muddling through. So many rules!! How does one remember all of these?
Okay, so how are we dividing up the assignment? I've just been working on the assignment for practice - maybe we can compare answers as with the cataloging? Or is it easier just to split as suggested?

Checking in with NACO assignment

Good Evening Everyone,

I am working on the NACO assignment, but would like to wait until after class on Tuesday to post. This is all new to me... If you would like to divided the assignment up, that is fine with me. I need the practice, so I plan on doing them all.

Assignment 2

Since there are 14 exercise questions total, may I suggest that we divide up these problems and each work 3-4 questions at a time? If we have questions, we can discuss with each other here or post on Bb. What do you all think?

Assignment 1 feedback

Pamela,
I have just finished moving yesterday.
I didn't have a chance to look into the assignment 1 feedback.
Kindly, send me the assignment 1 feedback from Dr. Bob by e-mail.
ttakamar@slis.sjsu.edu

Thank you.

And, thank you again for your hard work.

500 in NAR

I'm still going through all the slides for this unit - but I saw under the Personal Names that 500 field is used when linking names, like when a person uses pseudonym's - look at slides 31 foward.

Sorry!! I forgot to update the names on the description field - lost us a point there. I don't understand Dr. Ellett's note about the page numbers with the index. Anyone understand why we lost a point for that? Besides those we we did great!

We did good job!

Hi,

We did great!
I will work on our next assignment. It looks interesting.
One of my supervisors is a NACO level cataloger.
She creates authority records with me everyday.
We will be able to get her advice from her after getting our answers together.

NACO Assignment

Hi Everyone,

I thought I'd get the ball rolling on the NACO assignment. I have included a shot of what I came up with for the 1st one. I can't think of a reason to include the 500 field. Does anyone know what I am missing?

Graded Assignment

Hi Everyone! Hope you have had a good week so far. Dr. Ellett posted our grade. We received a 96. I am happy with this grade and would like to thank you for all your help with this. I know I would not have done this well working solo.

Submitted A1

OK, I went ahead and submitted assignment 1. We should know pretty quick how we did. Dr. Ellett is a fast grader.

One suggestion

Hi Amber,

Thank you for your great work. It looks great.

I have one suggestion for everybody:

We need "Illustrated by Helen Mitchell" on the T.P under "Photographs by Tony Cooper."

Urgently, I suggest everyone add "Illustrated by Helen Mitchell" on the T.P.

Final draft sent

Ok! I realized I only typed "Til" in the cutter program, that's why it came out with a different number. I've changed my call number to .T581 as everyone else does.

I also send out the final draft to everyone with the t.p info in the same file as Prof. Ellett instructed (?). Let me know if there's any changes that need to be made.

Good job team! Another assignment finished!

Thank you, guys

Hi,
My program finally worked.
I came up with T581 (Tilston) as well.

Thank you guys!

Amber, please let me know if you need my help on the final draft.

Thanks.

Assignment Done

Thanks everyone for you work! I made the change and just now going to submit the assignment. Have a wonderful weekend - and a good move for Toshu too.

Last changes

I think Amber's latest post is just about it, thanks for clearing up the fixed fields. Yes, the subfield should be B for the 082 field. Also for the cutter number I get a different figure. Under the Cutter Sanborn Four-Figure I'm coming up with T581. With just the Cutter four I got what Amber did with T469. Anyone else have a number with the Cutter Sanborn? Also agree with Toshu on the copy from the verso the verbiage for illustrator.

I'm okay with removing the 500, but either way will probably be correct. So I'm okay with leaving it in too. As far as the dimensions it would be safest to have both sizes, but if we're stressed by this, we can change it to a more normal sized book.

Amber, do you want to attach your record to the monograph and email? We will need to submit the same file individually like last time.

Good luck with the move Toshu!!

Cutter number

Hi Toshu:

Thanks for checking with your supervisor.

As for Dewey cutter number, no I didn't use 4 Figure Cutter Sanborn table. The cutter number for 4 Figure Cutter Sanborn table turns out to be .T569. I'll change my DDC with this cutter number.

It's close to final product

Hi,
I think the following point should be reconsidered:
1)
082_4 635.967109033 ‡b .T469 2005
The subfield must be ‡b

2)
245 12………../ ‡c ……..; illustration by Helen Mitchell.
We should transcribe as printed on our new T.P.

3) (my co-worker suggested)
300 …; ‡c 35 cm.
This book size is odd size. We could change to other sizes if we are not comfortable with it.

4) (my supervisor suggested)
We should omit 500(note), because 504 already describes about bibliographical reference.
I suggest we should change sentences on other information regarding bibliographical reference. “Bibliography pages 260-268 & Index”

Amber, did you use cutter program? My computer didn't work yesterday.
Dr. Bob told me we must use 4 Figure Cutter Sanborn table.
I think everything else is great.
On this Friday, I will move from Chino Hills to Diamond Bar. So, I might not be available all day.
It would great for us to submit this project tomorrow.
Thank you.

Another comparison

Hi Everyone:

So I revised my records again with suggestions from everyone here.

To answer some of Pamela’s questions and also point out some differences in all of our records, I’ll go over each field one by one again:

1. Fixed fields- We need to have a “b” in Cont. to reflect the bibliography.
-For Audience, do we leave it blank since this is a book that can be read by anyone?
Dr. Ellett just responded in Bb that ELvl should be blank, and Srce should be c for pcc record.

2. 040- I believe 040 usually shows up as the first field before any field.

3. 050- Yes Dr. Ellett has also responded in Bb that we’re creating a BIBCO record and therefore we use 050 _4 for LCC numbers and 082 _4 for DDC numbers.

4. 082 – So according to Toshu, we agree to use this 635.967109033 as our Dewey number, right? How about the cutter number? I downloaded the Dewey cutter program and found out the cutter number for Tilston should be .T469. So our Dewey call number is 635.967109033 ǂa .T469 2005, is this correct?

5. 245 – If illustrator information is not listed on t.p. (the chief source of information), then we need to add brackets around the illustrator info.
-Yes, use 12 as the indicators.
-Make sure the first indicator is 1 since 245 is not the main entry here.

6. 260 – Yes I believe we need to use c2005 since it’s a copyright date.

7. 300- Toshu, have you confirmed about the size with your supervisor yet? I think as long we can determine which is the width and which is the length, then we can decide if we keep both sizes or just one.
-For ill, I’ve only seen people simply use “ill.” Not too many people include detailed descriptions of the illustration. But I guess it would be a cataloger’s choice.
-I noticed we have the wrong page numbers in our mock-up t.p. Since bibliography extends to p. 268, there really should be 268 p., not 260 p.
-Make sure there are no indicators in 300.

8. 440- I did not include no. before 5 because we only have the number “5” on t.p. verso.

9. 500- I guess the note is totally up to us. Since everyone is adding the note, I’ll add mine as well.

10. 700- Make sure there are no periods at the end.

11. For the rules, I thought Dr. Ellett indicated to include the rules in the assignment details. But since I have never taken his class before, so I’m not sure how he will grade this assignment. I’ll include the rules just in case.

For any questions about each MARC fields, you can always click here: http://www.oclc.org/bibformats/en/fixedfield/audn.shtm. I found out a lot about indicators and information about each field from this website.

This assignment is due this Friday (9/19). Do we each turn in our individual work again like last time?

DDC

Natalie,

I don't use DDC so much. I use only LCC at my work.
So, I am not good at it.

Now, we need cutter number by the program.
Dr. Bob posted the link on BB after he e-mailed me the link.

Dewey Number:

635.9671 Roof, balcony, patio gardens (base number)

Go to tables and click table 1
And click T1-09, then click T1-0901-T1-0905
and click T1-0903, Finally, click T1-09033 18th century, 1700-1799

635.9671 + 09033 = 635.967109033

Another take

Ok, I have no idea why I thought it was a good idea to include the 150 and 450 fields. No one else included them, so I took them out. Also, I am not quite sure about my punctuation. With regard to the DDC#, I ended up with one less 3 than Toshu. Can anyone explain to me or point me in the direction of how to find this information correctly? I hope I am not forgetting anything. I am so glad to work in a group for this project. I have really benefited from all your input.

Comparing fields

Thank you, guys. Great job!
Dr. Bob asked us to use 050 _4 for every assignments.
2nd indicator, 4,shows the call number is not LCC.
I will confirm about DDC cutter number with Dr. Bob. I
remember that Dr. Bob gave us a link or software to find out the cutter number.
And I used it in 248.
245 12 is right if we want to keep an article.
245 subfiled c includes copyright sign, because the verso states copyright year is 2005.
650_0 is LCC subject heading which Dr. Bob requested.
We can add a subject heading. But, always, the first subject heading is an important main heading and reflects its LCC. Also, I was taught we don't need broader term.
For 300 field, I will confirm it with my co worker or supervisor.

I think the record looks great!

Reconciliation

Hello everyone, I was going to just go off the last posts, but when getting into it thought the discussion might work better when addressing field by field.
Also, the revised monograph was sent via email. And to clarify - the title page does not list the illustrator, only the verso. Does this make any changes to our cataloged record?

Fixed fields: I think we are all have the same except for the “ILLS” field. Toshu’s photograph explanation sounds reasonable, where was that taken from? I haven’t seen any definitions, just a list and in several places. I’ve also never seen the “o” designation. So then the "ills" in the fixed field area should just be "a"? Are there any other variations in the fixed fields?
020 – all same
040 – all same
042 – well I missed that field and an easy one.
050 – This is called “Library of Congress Call Number” and 090 is Locally Assigned LC-type Call Number. Similar situation with the Dewey Decimal numbers: 092 is “Locally Assigned Dewey Call Number” where 082 is: “Dewey Decimal Classification Number” Since Dr. Ellett said use 082 maybe we should also use 050 for the LCC number? Or is this something we need clarification on. I’m confused!!
082/092 – DDC number, Great - we got confirmation our Dewey number is good: 635.967109033

The added .T55 2005 is for LCC only, not DDC. Toshu asked about this part and the .T55 came from the tables for Library of Congress Catalog numbers, not Dewey or cutter tables. Add for the history part/historical aspect. Also, the subfield “b” for the Dewey number, do we include this? I'm now thinking no.

100 – all the same here
245 – The title does start with the article "A" so we need to include that and the indicator should reflect skipping the article. Since it's only one letter would the indicator be 2? Also, I just noticed my record did not follow the correct capitalization format.
260 - We are almost all the same. Only difference is for the copyright some of us have a “c” before the date others don’t. Which is correct?

300 – the size - I think we include both since the length is bigger than the height. Under the illustration description Natalie had: (color photographs & black and white drawings). Where others had the abbreviated (some col.). Is this a cataloger choice area? Which is correct?

440 – the series statement. Again I capitalized words in error. I included under subfield “v” before the number “no.” since I thought that was prescribed, but now I’m not finding that. Probably we don’t include this?

500 – Added notes, do we want to include the "Notes follow each chapter."? I think its up to the cataloger, or optional. I added it…any thoughts?

504 – all same here

650 – subject classification. Do we include any indicators?
Also Natalie had different subject/an added entry and not having Historical as part of the subject. I was wondering about the additional subject also….

700 – added entries, all same here.

Final question, about the rules - how many do we need? I believe Dr. Ellett said they are optional and you can include to justify your cataloging. This was how the 248 class was. I actually never added the rules and did okay anyway. Any thoughts.

okay, last for now, in our final record we will have to be very careful about punctuation as Amber mentioned. I also noticed that we have some leading spaces before the fields, in my record as well. It's so easy to do! So we really need to do the fine tooth comb on this area.
Did I miss something that we aren’t agreed upon in our individual cataloging?

Record comparisons

Thanks, everyone. Now we have everyone’s records for comparisons.

1. I noticed some of our titles are different. Do we keep the article in front of “history”? (Is it a or an in front?) If there is article, the indicators in 245 need to be changed.

2. I didn’t take 248 with Dr. Ellett and I don’t remember my professor went over DDC in our class. That’s why I was very confused on how to construct a Dewey number. Toshu, thanks for checking in with Dr. Ellett though. So do we all agree on this call number, 635.967109033 .T55 2005?

3. Thanks Toshu for the photograph explanation. Now I understand why most photograph books do not have o in the fixed field.

4. Yes we need to make those name changes on our t.p. Pamela, since you have the original document, would you be able to make those changes?

Bib record for Assignment 1

1) Book Size 17.5 X 35 cm = 18 X35Cm ( no decimal)
2.5D2.
If the width of the volume is either less than half the height or greater than the height, give the height × width.
; 20 × 8 cm.
; 20 × 32 cm.
300 subfield c is 35 cm.

2) subject headings & call numbers

suggetsion from Dr. Bob

We need the following:

--DDC number
--LCC number
-- LCSH headings (second indicator 0)

3) 1 st cutter number

Amber and Pamela,

Did T55 come from DDC cutter table website in 248? I thought we used the cutter table website in 248.

Am I wrong?

4) photographs

All depends on what kind of photographs on the book

*actual photographs are pasted on the book--- fixed field ills: o

*photographs are printed on the book-----fixed field ills: a

5) illustrated by Helen Mitchell

We must added the following under "Photographs by Tony Cooper" on the title page:

"Illustrated by Helen Mitchell"

We should change the other names on the title page and verso.

Thank you.

My Record

Ok I've made some revisions to my record as well. Looks like there are some differences with each of our records. How do we do the comparison and make corrections?

I'm not quite sure about how Dewey system works since I've only worked with LC call number before. I thought it would be the same as LC system where once I found the main subject number, in this case is 635.9671, then we use the first letter of the author's name as the 2nd line of the call number. Or maybe I am wrong. I've been trying to find information about Dewey online but haven't find anything useful yet.

There are only a few things I would like to make suggestions here:

1. I think we need to have a 1 as the first indicator at 245 since we have our author's name as the main entry and 245 is an added entry here.

2. Always be sure to have a space in between the words and punctuation such as ; : or / (except comma or hyphen). Sorry I've been trained to watch out for those punctuation errors at work so I've learned to keep an eye on those little details.

3. I wasn't too clear about the book dimension. Is 17.5cm the width or height? According to AACR2 rule 2.5d2: If the width of the volume is either less than half the height or greater than the height, give the height × width. If 35cm is the width, then Pamela is right. We do need to record both width and height in this case and round them up to the next whole number.

4. For illustration, I think it's ok if we want to add photographs on the illustration fixed field. But we also need to add "photographs" at 300 subfield b as well. (Not sure how they usually abbreviate it...)

It's funny. I've looked through many records about photograph books on OCLC. A lot of them only use "ill." as the only illustration code and don't even mention about photographs. But I don't think it would hurt if we're being more specific.

Other than that, I think we're pretty much on the same page as far as the subject headings and personal names. Good job! Almost done!

cataloged

I needed a good review too! I also took 248 in Spring 07. Did you have Ellett then Natalie? Were we in the same class??

Anyway, here's what I came up with. It looks like so far we have a lot of similarities, but differences too! First looking at the fixed fields - all 3 of us have different entries for "ills".

I also went with the modified names from Toshu, only one author now.

Boy did I need to review!

Here is what I came up with. I am thinking I should add more subject access. Also, I am not quite sure about my DDC. It doesn't quite match what Toshu came up with. Any suggestions and constructive criticism is very welcome, as I took 248 in the spring 2007.


OCLC: NEW Rec stat: n
Entered: 20080906 Replaced: 20080906 Used: 20080906
Type: a ELvl: I Srce: d Audn: f Ctrl: Lang:eng
BLvl: m Form: Conf: 0 Biog: -- MRec: -- Ctry: cau
Cont: -- GPub: -- LitF: 0 Indx: 1
Desc: a Ills: o Fest: DtSt: s Dates: 2005,
Area/Field Ind. Content

020 0872163944
040 CTA$cCTA

042 pcc
053 04 SB419.5.T55.2005
082 04 635.96710903

100 1_ Tilston, Caroline.

150 Roof gardening$y18th century
245 03 An historical look at rooftop gardens in the 18thcentury/$cCaroline Tilston; with photographs by Tony Cooper; illustrated by Helen Mitchell.

260
Oineda, Ca :$b Oineda University Press,$c2005.
300
268p. ; $bill(color photographs & black and white drawings). ;$c17.5cm x 35cm.

440
_0 Historical Gardens Series ;$vno5.

450 Rooftop gardening$y 18th century
500 Notes follow each chapter.
504
Includes bibliography and index, p. 260-68.


650 10 Roof gardening$y18th century.
650 04 Rooftop gardening
700 1_ Cooper, Tony,$d1933-.

700 1_ Mitchell, Helen,$d1937-.

Two facets DDC

Hi

DDC: roof gardening and 18th century (two facets)
635.9671 (roof gardening) + 09033 (Table 1-18th century)

635.967109033

Is this alright? Please let me know.

500 & 700 fields

My suggetion about the illustrator and photographer on 500 & 700 filed is not correct for this assignment. I cataloged many books for our special collection department. For special collection cataloging, I have to trace names of illustrators, cover designers, and photographers by adding entries on 700 fileds. Also, I have to add notes (500 fields) about the names.

I verified with Dr. Bob. And his e-mail:
"If that statement of responsibility appears on the t.p. transcribe it in 245c and make an added entry (700)."

It means that Amber did it correct. We have to trace the photographer and second author on 245 filed subfield c. by adding entries on 700 fields.

Use Toshu's names?

Ah Toshu and I posted almost at the same time. Perhaps we can use Toshu's personal names since they've all done works related to gardens?

Authorized names

Hi

I selected the following names from OCLC.

Illustration by Mitchell, Helen, ǂd 1937-
Photograph by Cooper, Tony, ǂd 1933-
Author: Tilston, Caroline

All names are traceable and on OCLC Bib records of garden books.

Please let me know if names above are alright.

Thanks

Authors

I found a few authors who have written about gardens from OCLC.

Hendy, Jenny, 1961- (authority record#3874892)

Stevens, David, 1943- (authority record#2500417)

Johnson, Stephen Burge, 1954- (authority record#1370222 )


Some photographers I found in OCLC authority file database:

Blair, John G., photographer (authority record#7263614)

Dye, Stephen, photographer (authority record#6856897)


Illustrators I found:

Fowler, John, illustrator (authority record#6780207)

Gale, Bob, illustrator (authority record#6250464)

Maybe we can randomly pick any of these names above.

Dr. Bob comfirm about authorized name

Hi

According to Dr. Bob, we must use names from OCLC authorized records.

So, we have to pick names which we can trace from OCLC authorized records.

I will select several names from OCLC.

Toshu

His answer from e-mail:

Hi Toshu,Yes please do.

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 12:45 AM, <https://slis.sjsu.edu/sqmail/src/compose.php?send_to=ttakamar%40slis.sjsu.edu> wrote:>

Hi Dr Bob, For assignment 1,
Do we have to use names from OCLC authorized name records for 100 and 700 field?
Thank you.
Toshu

Authorized names

Hi

For 100 field and 700 field,

I will confirm with Dr. Bob by e-mail if we have to use authorized names from OCLC authorized name records.

Thanks

Real Authors

Hi all,
Yeah, it looks like Dr. Ellet is encouraging us to use real authors. My guess so we use the authority files. So, shall I pull some names out of a NAR hat? Or any suggestions?
--Pamela

Real Author

Hi Everyone,
I just looked at BB and read that Dr. Ellett would like us to use real authors for the review assignment.

Working on the record....

Pamela,
Thank you for the monograph detail.

Amber,
Thank you for the bib record.

It really looks great!

My suggetion:
Adding 042 field: pcc
Adding 500 field: Illustration by John Wood. ( For special collection cataloging)
Photographs by Cecile Vita Dubrois. (For special collection cataloging)
Adding 700 1 Dubrois, Cecile Vita.

Are we adding Dewey subject heading?

Please let me know what you guys think.

It's fun!

I will look into it more.

Group work

Oops I didn't realize we have to split up for A5. But I'm willing to work on the rest of the assignments as group.

Thanks Pam for such detailed description of our fake surrogate. I will try to work on cataloging this item and email everyone my version today.

group work details

Ok, I signed us all up as a group for all the assignments except 5. Just let me know if anyone changes their mind about any of these arrangements. I will get to work on our current assignment today. Have a great day!

Assignment 5

I am glad to work on assignment 5 with Amber. Then, we all work together on assignment 6.

I will e-mail to Dr. Bob that Amber and I will do DVD on assignment 5.

Amber, please let me know.

Decision for assignment 5

HMMMM. I hate to split the group! I understand though. Pam, I am going to go ahead and email Dr. Ellett about our choice. Shall we plan on working together for assignment 6? I can sign us up on the wiki for assignment 6. Just let me know what you decide.

AV - Assignment 5

Okay group, we need to decide.....Where it is right now - Natalie had suggested working on cataloing photographs on slides and I agreed that it sounded interesting so I'm on board with that. Toshu, then suggested we work with VHS and Amber agreed - so if we are sticking to this we will need to split the group for this assignment. What do you all think?
Which ever way we go I suggest we decide quick since we need to pick a day and time for the presentation. I'd like to shoot for the middle of the dates, and later in the day better. Wed. I can manage to get time off work easier than any other time.
Okay, that's my two cents on this - for now. :-)

current assignment

Hi! So yes, we can include all those extra goodies like # of pages, bibliographic references in the back, size of book and so on. It will have to be added to the surrogate record. I'll go over Amber's posting of these and add them in then email what we have so far.

Checking in with you

Good Morning All,
I wanted to check in real quick before I take off to my internship. I will have more time to write a well thought out response to everyone's postings tonight. Have a great day!

A few thoughts on our current assignment:

Thank you all for liking the mock-up. and no, Toshu, I have not worked for a publisher before. I wish! I just looked at several books trying to copy the format, without giving the CIP info, which is why I added the little “available upon request” since I had seen that before.

An added instruction was posted today, “Your A1 submission must include at least 6 of the 8 areas of bibliographic description.” We may find that we need to add more details to the fictitious book. I like the idea of all working on the cataloging and comparing. Part of the assignment is to “Include relevant rules from AACR2” which I know I’d have difficulty with. This assignment is due next Friday, Sept. 19 so we should have our individual work done before then, Monday? Or this Friday?

Adding other information such as from spine, index, etc., might not be allowed. In real life you would have the book in hand instead of just these few parts. Yes, and how would we catalog the number of pages, size etc. Amber's catalog samples are great! We should ask for clarification if some of this info can be included. Tomorrow’s Elluminate meeting will be a chance – so I’ll keep it in mind.

More on all else later – it’s been a rough day…sorry.
Pamela

Thank for additional information of the book

Amber, Thank you for the additional information about the book. It's great!!
I will keep working on the record.
I cataloged many Chinese DVDs as well.
I would like to do the presentation during the weekend , if that is possible.
I will ask my supervisor about the possibility of an interview.
Shall we report by e-mail to Dr. Bob that we will do DVD as Non-print manifestation for assignment 5?
Thank you.

Assignment 1

Hi:

Thank you Toshu for such detailed planning on our assignments. I’m willing to work with everyone here for the remaining assignments in this class. I think working in groups could help us generate more ideas and produce better works together.

Pam, thank you so much for such wonderful job on creating the t.p and verso. That picture looks so nice. With these information in hand, it’ll be easy for us to catalog this “fake” book.

Let me be creative here and come up with some ideas to answer some of Toshu’s questions:

Pagination: 4, 260 p. : ǂb ill. (some col.) ; ǂc 24 in.

Includes bibliographical references (p. 258-260) and index.

Series title: Garden Series ; v.18 (traceable)

1^st edition

Yes. Sure. I can check with my supervisor once we finish cataloging this book.

Assignment 5
I would like to do DVD as well. I recently catalog many Chinese DVDs at work and I would be interested to learn more about DVD cataloging. Our department has a brief manual about cataloging DVD. I’ll dig it out later and share with everyone.

As for the presentation date, I realized Nov. 14 or 21 are all on a weekday. Don’t we all have to work? Prof. Ellett said weekend dates are available too. Would you all like to select a weekend date? Would that be easier for everyone?

Suggestions & Group Works

Hi,

1) All assignments /Group or Individual?
After looking at Dr. Bob’s reconstruction of the assignments, I am willing to work together with this group for all assignments. I think it is the best for each one of us to declare which assignment we prefer as a group project or as an individual project.
* Natalie, may we use this blog site even though you will do one of the assignments individually?

2) Assignment 2
Pamela, great work! It looks like a real book! Have you worked for a publisher?

My suggestions:
On the other information, shall we add information regarding the pagination, the spine title, index, bibliographical reference, or series title? Also, how about the edition information on the verso? (1st edition or 2nd edition?) We will able to describe this book on the bib record by cataloging it if there is additional information about this book. Please let me know.

Why don’t we fill out the template individually and put it together by next Friday? Therefore, we all can review Libr 248. After putting it together, I will check our work with my supervisor. Also, Amber could check it with her professor.
The cataloging is interesting. Each cataloger does different work. We can discuss this original record as catalogers. It’s exciting! As we work together, we will be able to make a better record.

3) Assignment 5
My suggestions:
We could do media items: DVD or VHS. I am currently working on Anime DVD. However, our department doesn’t have a manual. I am happy to help in any way that I can. It would be better for us to declare non-print material for the assignment 5 as soon as possible.
I will be able to arrange an interview with my supervisor in October. Should I arrange the interview around October 15 or 25? I will ask Dr.Bob how to set up to record the interview on Elluminate.
Please let me know.

Has Dr. Bob explained about the details of each assignment?

Great job!

Pam,
At first glance this looks fantastic. I love the pic! Maybe we should email Dr. Ellett and ask if we can keep it in? I didn't go over it with a fine tooth comb yet to make sure that all the pieces are there. I will do that later today. I just thought it looked so great, I wanted to let you know right away. Thanks, I am glad we went with your idea.

Fictitious Surrogate

Here's what I've come up with for the fake book portion. I like the photo, but I wonder if it's really appropriate for a title page. Is anything missing for this portion of the assignment? Feel free to add or delete - I can send the word doc via email - these are screen shots.
I haven’t finished reading the Cataloging Monographs yet, so I may have overlooked something.

class schedule

Hi Amber, I think its up to us if we want to work in groups on all assignments or not, but there are a couple he definitely wants groups, such as the final project and the AV unit since having individual presentations would take too long. At least that’s my understanding. You can always ask for clarifications, even though sometimes he’s short, expect a prompt response.
I sent him my opinion on the new scheduling already, but really I’m okay with either way. The only difference is he took out two small assignments later in the course and they looked somewhat interesting to me anyway, so I wouldn’t mind spending time with those. Not that I NEED extra assignments.

Not a bad grade

Don't worry about it Natalie. I actually thought the professor was being a little bit picky. But 95 is a pretty good grade already. Besides I don't think exercise 1 was part of our grade anyway.

For the interview assignment, is it possible to set up the interview through Elluminate? I was thinking if it's really hard to schedule a time to meet together using Elluminate. Perhaps we can all come up with a list of interview questions. Then Toshu could record the interview as he suggested. What do you think?

I'm still confused at Prof. Ellett's assignment structure as I have never taken his class before. Are we supposed to do all fo the assignments in this class as a group? He wasn't too clear on that on the syllabus.

By the way, Prof. Ellett sent a restructure proposal for our class. What do you all think? Have you reply to him with your opinions already?

Ex 1 and AV unit

95 isn't bad - it's still an A! ah, I didn't know we were missing anything either...

Toshu & Natalie, are you talking about the same assignment? The Teaching AV unit we have to present during one of the dates we pick? Developing the assignment around a collection of images on slides sounds interesting, I’m on board with that. We could combine the two. Toshu’s supervisor may be useful for ideas on the project. Could you use Elluminate to do the interview and record it? Or do only instructors have permission to record an Elluminate session?

As far as the teaching AV assignment we will have to pick a date – anyone request one from Dr. Bob yet? I would suggest Nov. 14, or 21 as my second choice, leaving more time in between assignments.

Exercise 1 Feedback

Well, I just looked at our feedback. It looks like it's my fault that we didn't get a higher grade ): I didn't refer specifically to the title in my slide. I am very sorry.

Fake Book

Glad you all like the book title. I don't mind creating the rest title page & verso. It should be fairly easy since it's all made up anyway. If I get stuck I'll ask for help!

As far as the other future assignments I haven't gotten into thinking about them or really looking over the requirements yet either. Maybe I need to do that this weekend. Natalie had asked a few days back about reading the Sanchez report - oh no, not yet. I've downloaded it though! Now I'm feeling behind and didn't we just start the semester?

I like your idea

Pamela, I think it's a great idea. We can go ahead and use your idea.

I missed the Elluminate meeting this Wed but I will look at the recording again this weekend. I hope I didn't miss much.

I read the brief description of assignment 1. So we just need to create a fake t.p. using the template form, right? Please let me know how I can help. Maybe we could each divide up the MARC sections, such as fixed, variable fields, and subject fields.

Toshu, I think it's good that your department has someone who we can interview with. Originally I was going to interview my manager here. She used to be a cataloging professor at Ohio State and she's an expert in cataloging. But we can use your person too if she's more suitable.

Continued Collaboration

I am looking forward to working with you on the upcoming assignments and exercises. To tell you the truth, I haven't given much thought to anything beyond our monographic review assignment. However, for the non-print exercise I want to choose a collection of images on slides to catalog. I am going to ask Dr. Ellett if I can work independently for that exercise, if none of you are interested in this. Don't worry, I totally understand. Just let me know what you think.

Pam, since our fake book is your brain child, would you like to create the made-up t.p. and verso?

Next group projectEx.2 & 3

Hi guys,

Thank you for your wonderful work on Ex.1

It will be wonderful to work together again.

I am sorry that I was busy with another class assignments and mandantory Elluminate session.
So, I haven't read detail of the next group project: NACO Ex.2
But, my department has great NACO level catalogers. We might be able to get some help.
Pamela, it looks interesting and sounds great.

I have a suggestion for Ex.3. My supervisor in my cataloging department is interested in innovative ways to make instructional manuals and department policies with Wiki.
I could set up the interview with my supervisor.
We could discuss all questions. And, I could interview my supervior and record the interview somehow.
Please let me know about Not-Print Ex.3

Have a great weekend.

Pam's Idea

I love Pam's idea! How does everyone else feel?

Done too

Hi! I just submitted the exercise 1 as well.

Thinking ahead to our next assignment - we have to create a fictitious monograph. I already have a fake book in mind - A Historical Look at Rooftop Gardens in the 18th Century. This book really doesn't exist! I have a slight interest in rooftop gardens and there aren't many books on the topic, but LC does have a subject heading for it!! The fake title would count for the two different facets (subjects) that Ellett stated was part of the requirement in the elluminate session - wasn't stated on the brief assignment details.

Any other ideas for our title? This seems to be one of our first tasks for this assignment.
Cheers,
Pamela

Elluminate

If anyone is interested in having a meeting in Elluminate, I would be happy to set it up with Dr. Ellet. Just let me know.

All Done!

Ok, I have submitted mine already, so I really hope no one wants to make changes. (: I also signed us up as a group for assignment 1.

Submitting

Thanks Toshu for adding all the animation. It looks like we are done, unless something comes up at tonight's class meeting, although doubtful.

Amber asked about submitting this assignment in an email. We all have to turn in the same exact thing, the completed product. Right now the latest version is from Toshu, animated, and I belive we submit through blackboard.
Thanks all,
Pamela

Animated version & Harry Potter

Hi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter

“Since the release of the first novel Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone in 1997,
which was retitled Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone in the United States”

Unfortunately, the American publisher changed the title only for American market.

This is another edition or version in cataloging. It requires to create a new Bib record.

How about FRBR?

In FRBR, it is expression in another title and language? What do you think?

I added animation on the slides. And, I e-mailed it to you guys.

I think we submit this assignment individually. (lastnameE1)

Thank you.

Toshu

Great Team!

Thank you for all your great work.

It's great team!

Shall we work together again for the next group project in this class?

I will not be able to attend today's Elluminate session due to my work schedule.

First Japanese and British edition vs. American edition

Hi,

Natalie, thank you for putting all together.


First edition of Japanese version has the same title as original British first edition.
However, the American publisher changed the title of first edition for US market.
It's interesting, isn't it?

It explained on my 2nd slide:
"The first book of the series, Harry Potter and the
Philosopher's Stone (ISBN 0-7475-3269-9), was published
by Bloomsbury, the publisher of all Harry Potter books in
the United Kingdom, on June 30, 1997. It was released in
the United States on September 1, 1998 by Scholastic—the
American publisher of the books—as Harry Potter and the
Sorcerer's Stone (ISBN 9780590353427) "

Forgot to mention

I forgot to mention that Toshu used a different book in the series. Is is possible to get a picture of the correct book Toshu?

PPT Update

Hi Everyone,

I wanted to let you know that I have emailed two versions of the slide show to you. The first contains slides just as you sent them to me. In the second document, I made some changes. Let me me know what you think. Hope to see you in class tonight!

Good luck!

Good luck Natalie for your new internship. The internship sounds like an exciting position!

I also applied for internship position at LA county public library. But so far they haven't have any openings yet.

I'm recently in the process of applying for this new electronic resource assistant position within our department. This is a higher level job and it pays much better. I really hope I can get this job. I've talked to that hiring manager and she said I have the skills she needed. The only thing she's concerned with is that I only have one more year of school left and she's afraid I might leave after just one year. I'm still trying to convince her to give me this job. Keeping my fingers crossed!

I think we work very well together. I don't have any problem about working together for the next assignment. What do you all think?

Thanks

Thanks for all the well wishes! My internship is at The Pacific College of Oriental Medicine. I will for sure get into copy cataloging. I am going to push some original cataloging as well. I am going to relax tonight. Tomorrow morning I will put the slides together and email them to everyone to take a look.

Has anyone had an opportunity to read the Sanchez report yet? I finished it the other night. I didn't realize how different the work flow can be among libraries.

How do you all feel about working together? I am wondering if you would like to continue doing so for the next team assignment. No pressure to anyone who might like to try out another group.

Have a great night!

O ya, is anyone else graduating this semester?

Good Job! you guys

Good job!
Pamela, it looks great!

Natalie,
Good luck on your internship!
Thank you for putting all together!

emailed

I just emailed my slides. Thanks for pulling these together Natalie!
and Good Luck on your internship. Where is it at?

Tuesday

I just wanted to let everyone know that I start my internship tomorrow (YAY), so I will not be responding until tomorrow night. Wish me luck. (:

Put it all together

If everyone would like, you can email your slides to me, and I will put it all together. Then we can take another look and add relevant any references.

Item slides

Okay here are my two slides. Does the definition page need anything more? Any other thoughts on these slides? I didn't add any animation.
Thanks!Pamela